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	<title>Comments on: MoM Feb. ‘09 &#8211; Best of America’s Test Kitchen: General Tso&#8217;s Chicken</title>
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		<title>By: Miss Macchiato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Macchiato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, our first troll. We&#039;re a real website now!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;doug, I&#039;m sorry you didn&#039;t care for the version I posted. As DavidK graciously pointed out, this is a blog written by regular people who like to cook. Personal preferences, tastes, and styles vary. It&#039;s subjective. Amateurs with Knives. It&#039;s in the title. If you don&#039;t care for that, go pick up a copy of The French Laundry.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, since you were so quick to jump on DavidK for misreading, I&#039;d like to point out the original text I wrote, just above the ingredient list:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Thanks to the discourse that accompanies the recipe, I was able to figure out the combination of ingredients that worked best for me. I halved the hoisin and added the (tomato) paste back...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I &lt;em&gt;halved&lt;/em&gt; the hoisin because that&#039;s how I like it. When I copy and paste a recipe straight on, I am sure to note &quot;courtesy of&quot;. When I adapt, I say so. Apparently your math skills and reading comprehension are as bad as your interpersonal skills. Want the original version? Multiply the hoisin by 2 and cut back on the tomato paste.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At any rate, good luck in your role as the Champion of Rabid Hoisin Lovers Everywhere who are apparently offended by my version of this recipe.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, our first troll. We&#8217;re a real website now!</p>

<p>doug, I&#8217;m sorry you didn&#8217;t care for the version I posted. As DavidK graciously pointed out, this is a blog written by regular people who like to cook. Personal preferences, tastes, and styles vary. It&#8217;s subjective. Amateurs with Knives. It&#8217;s in the title. If you don&#8217;t care for that, go pick up a copy of The French Laundry.</p>

<p>Also, since you were so quick to jump on DavidK for misreading, I&#8217;d like to point out the original text I wrote, just above the ingredient list:</p>

<p>&#8220;Thanks to the discourse that accompanies the recipe, I was able to figure out the combination of ingredients that worked best for me. I halved the hoisin and added the (tomato) paste back&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>I <em>halved</em> the hoisin because that&#8217;s how I like it. When I copy and paste a recipe straight on, I am sure to note &#8220;courtesy of&#8221;. When I adapt, I say so. Apparently your math skills and reading comprehension are as bad as your interpersonal skills. Want the original version? Multiply the hoisin by 2 and cut back on the tomato paste.</p>

<p>At any rate, good luck in your role as the Champion of Rabid Hoisin Lovers Everywhere who are apparently offended by my version of this recipe.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DavidK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey doug dude, chill out.  I think you woke up on the wrong side of the panhandle this morning, or you&#039;ve been watching Chef Ramsey on TV too much lately.  Your complaints are somewhat helpful, and it seems like you&#039;re a good recipe-follower, but I take it you&#039;re not exactly loads of fun to be around in the kitchen.  :(&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;re not sheep; there is no reason to stick exactly to any recipe, or to curse at cooks who are trying to get creative.  We&#039;re &quot;Amateurs With Knives&quot;, not professional wannabees with knives, having some fun and sharing our results with other friendly folks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey doug dude, chill out.  I think you woke up on the wrong side of the panhandle this morning, or you&#8217;ve been watching Chef Ramsey on TV too much lately.  Your complaints are somewhat helpful, and it seems like you&#8217;re a good recipe-follower, but I take it you&#8217;re not exactly loads of fun to be around in the kitchen.  <img src='http://amateurswithknives.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>We&#8217;re not sheep; there is no reason to stick exactly to any recipe, or to curse at cooks who are trying to get creative.  We&#8217;re &#8220;Amateurs With Knives&#8221;, not professional wannabees with knives, having some fun and sharing our results with other friendly folks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First, the tomato paste modification ruined this dish.   I should have known what every fiber in my being told me:  Don&#039;t mess with the ATK recipe.  The use of tomato paste gave this an odd, pastey reddish-orange color that was not appealing to the eyes.  If you want a sweeter version that the ATK recipe (why?) there are better ways to achieve it.  The only reason the author had to modify this recipe was to rationalize posting someone else&#039;s copyrighted material.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, frying the chicken in a few tablespoons of oil rather than deep frying is absurd.  Don&#039;t kid yourself, you&#039;re going to get a completely different result. If you want General&#039;s chicken like your neihgboorhood Chinese joint, do what they do and deep fry it. If you&#039;re concerned about calories, you should be reading this anyways.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Third, David K, the recipe says exactly how much Hoisin mixture to use where - you measured wrong. Just because your experiment in creativity &quot;improved&quot; doesn&#039;t mean it came out good.  Stick to the recipe folks! They spend endless hours perfecting it and testing over and over.  If you want to get creative, take up finger painting.  If you want the best food at home, stick to the god damn recipe.  Pay attention, and measure properly.  Geesh.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Btw.. if you don&#039;t have Hoisin sauce, you can make your own. It&#039;s not difficult, and the ingredients are in every half-decently stocked pantry. Google the recipe.  But, if you want your General&#039;s to taste more like your local joint, use a mass-made Hoisin.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, the tomato paste modification ruined this dish.   I should have known what every fiber in my being told me:  Don&#8217;t mess with the ATK recipe.  The use of tomato paste gave this an odd, pastey reddish-orange color that was not appealing to the eyes.  If you want a sweeter version that the ATK recipe (why?) there are better ways to achieve it.  The only reason the author had to modify this recipe was to rationalize posting someone else&#8217;s copyrighted material.</p>

<p>Second, frying the chicken in a few tablespoons of oil rather than deep frying is absurd.  Don&#8217;t kid yourself, you&#8217;re going to get a completely different result. If you want General&#8217;s chicken like your neihgboorhood Chinese joint, do what they do and deep fry it. If you&#8217;re concerned about calories, you should be reading this anyways.</p>

<p>Third, David K, the recipe says exactly how much Hoisin mixture to use where &#8211; you measured wrong. Just because your experiment in creativity &#8220;improved&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean it came out good.  Stick to the recipe folks! They spend endless hours perfecting it and testing over and over.  If you want to get creative, take up finger painting.  If you want the best food at home, stick to the god damn recipe.  Pay attention, and measure properly.  Geesh.</p>

<p>Btw.. if you don&#8217;t have Hoisin sauce, you can make your own. It&#8217;s not difficult, and the ingredients are in every half-decently stocked pantry. Google the recipe.  But, if you want your General&#8217;s to taste more like your local joint, use a mass-made Hoisin.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DavidK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I made this a few times already (I halve the recipe since I&#039;m cooking just for two people), and it came out better and better each time I made it.  The first time, I made it according to the posted recipe, but I put too much of the marinade into the dry coating mix (the recipe doesn&#039;t say how much, just to use &quot;the remaining hoisin mixture&quot;), so it was like working with putty instead of a coating powder.  I tossed that out and got creative, leaving out the hoisin mixture from the coating mix, and instead added some pepper, salt, cinnamon, and allspice as seasoning to the cornstarch/flour/baking soda. Finally, I tossed in a few tablespoons of Italian-style panko breadcrumbs; this let the coating have that desirable &quot;chunky&quot; texture as seen in the photos.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I sort of stir-fried the coated chicken in my mid-size Calphalon wok, using about 3 tablespoons of olive oil to fry in.  I added a little more olive oil and let it heat up, prior to each small batch I made.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the sauce/marinade, the posted recipe is really delicious, though time-consuming to make.  If you&#039;re looking for a shortcut that still tastes pretty good, you can mix equal parts of hoisin and ketchup, then dilute a bit with white vinegar or seasoned rice vinegar, and if you like a little spice you can add a teaspoon or so of hot chili sauce (I used Sriracha hili sauce because it&#039;s readily available here in Calif.).  You can substitute a little water for the added vinegar, and/or leave out the chili sauce if you like a milder sauce.  Taste the marinade along the way, to decide what proportions are right for you. :)  I&#039;m a slow cook, so simplifying the marinade/sauce is a great time saver for me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made this a few times already (I halve the recipe since I&#8217;m cooking just for two people), and it came out better and better each time I made it.  The first time, I made it according to the posted recipe, but I put too much of the marinade into the dry coating mix (the recipe doesn&#8217;t say how much, just to use &#8220;the remaining hoisin mixture&#8221;), so it was like working with putty instead of a coating powder.  I tossed that out and got creative, leaving out the hoisin mixture from the coating mix, and instead added some pepper, salt, cinnamon, and allspice as seasoning to the cornstarch/flour/baking soda. Finally, I tossed in a few tablespoons of Italian-style panko breadcrumbs; this let the coating have that desirable &#8220;chunky&#8221; texture as seen in the photos.</p>

<p>I sort of stir-fried the coated chicken in my mid-size Calphalon wok, using about 3 tablespoons of olive oil to fry in.  I added a little more olive oil and let it heat up, prior to each small batch I made.</p>

<p>As for the sauce/marinade, the posted recipe is really delicious, though time-consuming to make.  If you&#8217;re looking for a shortcut that still tastes pretty good, you can mix equal parts of hoisin and ketchup, then dilute a bit with white vinegar or seasoned rice vinegar, and if you like a little spice you can add a teaspoon or so of hot chili sauce (I used Sriracha hili sauce because it&#8217;s readily available here in Calif.).  You can substitute a little water for the added vinegar, and/or leave out the chili sauce if you like a milder sauce.  Taste the marinade along the way, to decide what proportions are right for you. <img src='http://amateurswithknives.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;m a slow cook, so simplifying the marinade/sauce is a great time saver for me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Miss Macchiato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Macchiato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the confusion on that. Yes, I just put in a couple of tablespoons and, if I needed to fry in separate batches, simply added. I didn&#039;t cut the oil quantity back because your mileage will be different. Hope you enjoy it!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the confusion on that. Yes, I just put in a couple of tablespoons and, if I needed to fry in separate batches, simply added. I didn&#8217;t cut the oil quantity back because your mileage will be different. Hope you enjoy it!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DavidK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for posting this recipe, I&#039;m definitely going to try it.  I&#039;m a little confused though, because in the paragraphs before the recipe you mention that you didn&#039;t deep-fry, but then your recipe listing below calls for 4 cups of cooking oil.  I assume you just just a couple of tablespoons of oil when you pan-fried the chicken.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this recipe, I&#8217;m definitely going to try it.  I&#8217;m a little confused though, because in the paragraphs before the recipe you mention that you didn&#8217;t deep-fry, but then your recipe listing below calls for 4 cups of cooking oil.  I assume you just just a couple of tablespoons of oil when you pan-fried the chicken.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Miss Macchiato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Macchiato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks! So glad you liked it -- your photo looks delicious!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! So glad you liked it &#8212; your photo looks delicious!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>rushmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I made this tonight and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webnesia.com/2009/03/general-tsos-chicken.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;liked it&lt;/a&gt;.  Thanks for posting it!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made this tonight and <a href="http://www.webnesia.com/2009/03/general-tsos-chicken.html" rel="nofollow">liked it</a>.  Thanks for posting it!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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